#13: Badassary and Core Values: “Raising a Connected Family in a Disconnected World” with Phyllis Pena
Phyllis Pena, the mom who protected her daughter from a peeping tom. You may have seen the viral video. It's gotten over 250,000 views, and I'm sure it's going to keep growing. Phyllis is from Lake Jackson in Texas, and originally from Ohio, she's been in Texas for 19 years. She's a single mom of four kiddos ranging from 12 to 19. She has worked in industrial sales for seven years and she loves to be in the outdoors, especially making memories with her children.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Hello, it's Tina Marie. And welcome to another episode of lights, your life, the podcast, where we get to talk to amazing individuals who are simply doing life, following their dreams, following their journey, and following those circumstances that lead them to that next open door and season of their life. And we get to sit with them and hear their stories and hear their advice. Having gone through challenges, how did they arrive to the other side? And what advice do they have for us? So we too can light our lives with wisdom and joy and empathy and courage. Thank you so much for lending your ear and your time to listening to today's story. Let me introduce our guest. She happens to be a bit of a hero of mine, and I did get to talk to her before then. So she knows this. And so Phyllis Pena, she arrived on TV one night as I was watching the news.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
And it was about a mom who tackled peeping. Tom, looking through her daughter's window. You may have seen the viral video. It's gotten over 250,000 views, and I'm sure it's going to keep growing. And so this is a little bit about, about Phyllis. She is from Lake Jackson here in Texas, and originally from Ohio, she's been in Texas for 19 years. She's a single mom of four kiddos ranging from 12 to 19. And the last 10 years she's been here in Texas. She works in industrial sales for seven years now, not an easy job, and she loves to be in the outdoors, especially making memories with their children. So Phyllis, thank you again for being our guest here on light your life. I love to get to chat with you. And literally that night I saw that video. I was like, I need to find this woman. She's awesome. And it isn't just about what you did there and tackling the gentlemen, which we'll find out more about, but it's it. I could tell that inside of your spirit, inside of your soul, there was something that drove you. And I think our world needs more of what you can share with us today. So thank you.
Phyllis Pena:
Yes ma'am. Thank you. Awesome.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
So tell us about your family. You've got four children. Who are they? And what are those age range? How are they spread out?
Phyllis Pena:
Well, let me start with my oldest. He's 19 and I actually has a baby on the way, so I'll be a grandma soon. Oh, cool. Congratulations. I know I'm so excited because I told him I'm gonna spoil him and send him back. I have a 17 year old boy and then a 15 year old daughter and a 13 year old boy or 12 year old. Sorry. He's about to be 13. If I can get his age, right. Almost 13.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Mom, come on, give me some credit here, dude. I know how that goes. I love it. And so you arrived home and saw a peeping, Tom looking through your daughter's window. Yes.
Phyllis Pena:
Yes. Ma'am. I got home. I had ran to get coffee early in the morning and whenever I pulled into the driveway, I didn't even notice it first. You know, I got, I'm far more routine, just walk around the front of the car and happened to notice all the corner of my eye. There was a scar, just standing at her window trying to peek into her window. Like he wasn't just standing there. He was like crouched down, trying to look through the blinds. And that's when I yelled at him and you know, it was like, what are you doing? And that's when he realized I was even there because he was so he was so engrossed in what he was doing. He didn't even hear me. Yeah. But yeah.
Speaker 3:
Huh.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
So you're a single mom of four. Tell us about your kids. So how do they range? I know you have a 19 year old and I think you even have a grandbaby on the way. Yes.
Phyllis Pena:
Yes. Ma'am. I have three boys and one girl. My boys are 19, which that's my oldest he's moved out and starting his life and has a baby on the way. And then I have a 17 year old boy that's at home still. He graduates this year and then I have my 15 year old daughter and then I have my 12 year old son, which is like my baby boy, you know,
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Moyle. That's great. And so, wow. Okay. So your daughter has three brothers. This guy had a lot of bravado.
Phyllis Pena:
Oh yeah. My, my oldest one said he better be glad I wasn't home. You know, my 19 year old.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Yeah. Yeah. So how did it work that the police got there? Because I don't know about you, but in my world, the police don't arrive when they're exactly. And so I know that the police were trying to apprehend this gentleman. How'd that all go down.
Phyllis Pena:
It's a lot that people don't understand about the story. Because I know you just see the clip on the news and it's, you know, the whole back story. Once you hear it, it all kind of makes sense. But whenever I got home, I saw him peeking into the window. So I went ahead and came inside to come check on my daughter after he ran away, ran away. And luckily she wasn't in her room. She had gotten to the shower. So she wasn't in there. She was okay. So I called the cops and I had to look at the timeline because they did, they got here really quick, which is, I mean, I called it almost exactly seven o'clock in the morning. And by seven 14 is when the video, you know, shows me tackling the guy. So within 14 minutes I called the cops and he was apprehended.
Phyllis Pena:
I mean, so it was, it was very quick, like couldn't even think kind of process. Cause it happened quick to go outside. Okay. So if you want to hear the craziest part about the story, whenever I came inside to check on her and I called the cops and you know, got off the phone with them, made sure she was okay. I went back outside because I watched which way he ran and I peeked around my house and about five houses down. He's just standing there, staring back, just standing there, staring back towards my house. So I ducked back behind my house again to make sure he didn't see me. And I waited a few seconds and I peeked back around my house and he was walking off, not running walking. So I went, started walking towards that way. And that's about when the cops pulled up from both sides of the street, pointing to them where he just went and I could hear them yelling, you know, get on the ground, get on the ground, stop. Well, one cop missed him. The next cop tries to tase him. But it caught his jacket instead of connecting with him. So at that point, that's where the video starts, where you see me just kind of standing there watching because I'm like, okay, they got him, you know, there it's good. And then I realized, Oh my God, he's getting away. And he's running my way.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
That was a mistake.
Phyllis Pena:
And my daughter that's, my daughter is standing with me in the video and she was saying, mom, no, don't go that way. You know, she, she didn't want you to get hurt, which I understand. And that's, you know, one thing that I've heard a lot through this is people are like, what she's crazy for doing that she could have got hurt, which you know, is definitely a possibility if anythings else took over. Right. Oh it definitely you don't want your child to ever be in fear. And she was scared, you know, because as soon as I told her, somebody was outside of her window, she started freaking now, you know, so if it's no anything you can do to keep your kids safe and make them feel safe and he's, if he would've got away, then she would have been wondering if he was coming back, you know, and who wasn't. And did she know who this was? Well, you know my three oldest, no of him, because he did go to the same high school because he's actually the same age as my oldest son, but none of them knew him personally. Like my oldest son just knew of them because they were in the same class, but he he ended up dropping out that kid did. And so my son didn't, wasn't like really friends with him or anything like that. But
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
You tackled him in front of the police car on the street. Yeah. Great, great bear hug. By the way, I've seen that swing. I mean, that is classic. I can, I can see football coaches show in their teams. This is how you do it.
Phyllis Pena:
Yeah. I've heard a lot of people say that they're like, we're going to show our youth kids, you know, the youth football teams and all that. We're going to show them how you're supposed to tackle. Funny. I've never done a sport in my entire life. Yeah. I think it's like the true definition of, you know, don't mess with a mom's kids.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Mama bear came out. That's awesome. And so your video's gone viral. How does it feel to have a viral video, especially as a mom raising four kids that are on social media more than you are probably.
Phyllis Pena:
Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's been crazy because my oldest one, he actually, you know, since he's graduated from high school and stuff, he works out in the real world. So you know, his friends, coworkers and stuff at work, go up to him like, dude, is this your mom? You know, we saw this position and then the kids teachers at school are like, we saw your mom on the news. You know? I mean, everybody has seen it. And it's funny because the whole reason I shared the video in the first place was because anybody that knows me knows I'm very quiet. I'm very, I'm not confrontational. I don't, I don't do all that I say to myself, you know? So the fact that I did that, it's kind of almost out of character. So the true character inside though, that's why I shared it because I was just like, can y'all believe, you know, I actually did this. And then it went viral. Like literally overnight went viral.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
I know the newscasters are having a field day with you. It's just so fun. And I'm really interested in hearing your, your true story. I know that that was a moment in time. And of course, I think any mother or father that had the opportunity to do that would have done it. It's just natural instinct to protect our kiddos. And you know, it really points to, you're a strong woman raising these kids. And so what values do you have you held to your heart are important for your kids to know and trust in their world so that they lead productive, happy lives.
Phyllis Pena:
You know, it's sad this day and age. We want our kids to feel safe in this world. We want to teach our kids about trusting and things like that because it's things you have to have as a person to be able to live a healthy life. You know, you have to be able to trust. You have to be able to you know, be confident and believe in yourself and you know, all those kinds of things. So those are the things I've always tried to teach my kids. And unfortunately, you know, you have things like that that happened and you know, it makes your kids feel uneasy about life and that you have to just remind them. That's just one thing that happened. It doesn't mean that's how life is always going to be, you know? But yeah, I've definitely taught my kids to just, I don't know, never give up, I guess, is one of my biggest things, never give up on their dreams.
Phyllis Pena:
Never because being a single parent, you know, I've definitely had to show them to just always give their best, you know, cause I, yeah, I recently was it recently, but a little over two years ago I bought a house in congratulate. I've tried to make a home for my kids and I'm done what I never had as a kid, which is stability and routine and you know, giving them opportunities that I never had. And so with my kids, like my son that graduated last year, he got to graduate with same kids. He went to pre-K with, which is something that a lot of parents don't realize how important that is is, you know, we parents focus too much on themselves and forget that kids need that stability in that routine and, you know, need to be able to look forward to things like my son being able to graduate with the same kid he went to pre-K with was it was amazing. You know, it, it made his, his whole entire year to be able to be with the same people. And I dunno,
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
We don't, you know, even friendships what you're really, you know, I'm hearing is that friendships are vital. And that one word that you spoke of earlier is trust. You know, how do we trust the world? How do we trust ourselves in the world? And you know, having friendships, those, those relationships, we can depend on it. And we know people inside and out now with say, I judge a friendship, a true friendship. Whenever I can arrive on the doorstep of my friend. And I have absolutely nothing to my name and at the bottom, you know, and they take me in, they don't ask me questions. They say, can I get you some food? Do you need a shower? And they don't want to hear the backstory. They just want to say, how can I help you? And where do you want to go? Like, how can I help you get to where you need to be? You know, in a world where the drama is really the bigger story, as opposed to the goals and the dreams that each of us have.
Phyllis Pena:
That's the one thing I've had to teach my kids. It's not about the quantity of friends. It's about the quality of friends. I only have very few friends now. I know a lot of people because I'm, I like to talk. So, so my kids are always like, you have so many friends. I'm like, no, I know a lot of people, but I only have a few friends. And it's funny you say that about, you know, be able to walk on your friend's doorstep and you know, kind of know, true friends. When I went through my divorce and I started over, I left everything behind and just wanted to start fresh. And my friend, she opened up her house and it's my bestest friend in the world. She opened up her house to me and my kids. And you know, no questions asked, didn't expect anything.
Phyllis Pena:
And you know, she just let me rebuild. And that was probably the best thing ever, you know, being able to just start over and you know, not be judged because we, so many of us hit rock bottom, but you know, you choose your future. You know, it's one thing I've told my kids, you choose your future. You choose which direction it goes, you know? Yeah. Things might happen in your life, but things that happen don't determine your future. You know, it might just be a setback. And, and that's one thing I think my, my oldest one right now, it's nice watching him grow up and seeing him do the things that I didn't realize he was learning for me over the years. Does that make sense? Like he, yesterday he was cooking supper at his house or his apartment. And I was like, I can't believe I was like, you can cook. He's like, well, yeah, mom, I was like, it's just so weird seeing my kid grow, you know, what happens overnight? Doesn't it does. And he's working and saving for his baby and getting prepared and you know, just, it's so amazing to watch what, what you've created blossom. You know, I want you to give yourself credit. I mean, honestly I think
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Parents, whenever our kids do well, whenever they blossom, like you're watching for your oldest year, we don't really give ourselves credit that we did good. We can be our own worst critic.
Phyllis Pena:
Oh no, that's probably one of my biggest downfalls is I am my own worst critic when it comes to everything and I've had to remind myself and I think a lot of parents need to remind themselves that we do make mistakes. We're not perfect all the time. I'm not perfect. No. And I will be the first to admit that I've apologized to my kids before I've messed up. I've not been the best parent all the time and I've apologized and you know, I'm sorry, whether it be, I raised my voice a little too loud and probably shouldn't got as mad as I did or whatever it might be. You know, I apologize to my kids because you know, the first step to making a better you is admitting when you're wrong. I mean, Lord knows I'm not perfect. Okay.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
How freeing it is to be able to truly apologize. No, that we don't have to hold that perfectionism type facade up. Yeah. Do you see that your children have that ability to not only forgive themselves for their shortcomings, but also to ask for forgiveness?
Phyllis Pena:
Yeah. I can see it in them, but like with anything, it takes time to be able to fully do it. That's what, you know, my oldest one, me and him had the conversation the other day because he's learning about, you know, sending money and, you know, doing right things with being an adult. And he was like, you know, I realized that it's not going to happen overnight. And it's going to take me some time to learn, you know, how to spend money, how to save money, how to, and I was like, yes, it's not. I mean, I can instill it in you and teach you all day long, but you know, it's not something that happens overnight. You don't just wake up one morning and you're like, Oh, I'm an adult. Let's, let's do this. You know, adult
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Does not equal fiscal responsibility.
Phyllis Pena:
If I could just give that back, I don't want to be an adult anymore. Can I just give it back? You know, you, this adult
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Part, what I signed up for. Okay. And so we live in a different world. I mean, you and I, I mean, we didn't have the internet growing up. We didn't have smartphones. I was just, I was just reminiscing over the weekend. And I think I was talking about all things. So I don't know how old you are, but I'm gonna say a couple words here because I remember my mom wanted me to go try out for a modeling thing at Foley's and they, they were taking auditions. It was just a big marketing gimmick is what it ended up being. But here I am in line with my best friend, Shirley. And we're hoping we're going to strike it rich. Like we're going to be discouraged. I was so young. So they were selling Jordache jeans. I know what those are, they're selling Jordache.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
And so I was like reminiscing with a friend of mine is like Jordache and Gloria Vanderbilt's and all these jeans were like the thing. And I remember thinking, you know, there was a part of me going, if you don't have the thing that's popular, then you're not a person, you know, like you're not important. And I'm like, wow, there's so much of that that we grew up with. But it's just a different flavor now. And I think it's exaggerated exasperated because it's all on social. So what's the biggest challenge you're finding as a single mom, raising your children in today's atmosphere.
Phyllis Pena:
You know I taught my kids a long time ago that you don't have to be something like you don't have to act like you're something just to impress people. Because if they're a friend, they're a friend, you know, it doesn't mean like, Oh, the only way they'll be friends with me is if I dress this certain way, or the only way they're gonna be friends with me is, I mean, unfortunately this day and age, I guess, experimenting with things a little bit worse than it used to be. So sometimes, you know, they they have it's a lot easier to be able to experience or experiment with drugs and you know, all that. And so I've had to teach my kids, you know, you don't have to do that to fit in. You know, you, you just be yourself. Sometimes being unique is a lot better than trying to blend in with the crowd. And, and so I think my kids have taken the uniqueness a little to an extra level. I love my kids, but my kids are all got their own personal opinions, their own unique personalities, their unique styles. And I hear from so many people they'll tell me, they're like, your kids are one of a kind I'm like that. They are, you know, they, they stand out from the crowd. They're not like other kids and they don't care to, you know, put ripples in the world. You know, they're, they're not trying to blend in with the crowds. They cracked me up sometimes because
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Easiest thing you can think of that one of your children has done.
Phyllis Pena:
Let me think. I mean, there's a lot of crazy things, but I'm trying to think best one to share. Cause you're
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Up there now with them because you tackled a guy in the,
Phyllis Pena:
Oh man, I can't even think right now. There's just so many different things. Like the teachers at school always say how, you know, they're like your kids are just so different. Like, I don't know. It's hard to explain, but yeah, no, I mean, they're just there. They don't care to try to impress anybody, I guess you could say. So they say what they want, they do what they want. And I mean, they're good kids, but they're respectful full, but they have a sense of humor like me. So that'll get you through life.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
I, I discovered something that was strange. So I wanted colored contacts. They were new back then. And my mother, we couldn't afford colored contacts cause they were, you know pricey. Yeah. So I had some like crazy idea that I was going to soak my contacts that are clear in food coloring. And so I did, it
Phyllis Pena:
Sucked to food coloring just to hop
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
In there. And they came out in blue. And so I put in the blue contacts and everything was blue. It doesn't like have like a hole in the middle that is clear. So everything looked for a while until that would fade off during the day. It wouldn't like seep off. Right. But I go to school with these really dark blue eyes and freak people out. And then and anybody who's listening to this knows that about me. If you broke up with me and then I would take my hair. And because we couldn't have, you know, hair dye, I would use food coloring to color either just strips of my hair, different colors, blue, red make green. And I was the person that did that crazy stuff. And it became part of my personality just to not stand out, to stand out, but to express my individual creativity in a way that I did it on my own. So it sounds like your kids have a bit of that.
Phyllis Pena:
Yeah, they definitely do my daughter, especially she's you know what used to not be acceptable and is acceptable now it's like completely different. You know, I never thought like if, if you would ask me years ago when I first had my kids, if I'd allow my daughter to get her nose pierced, I would've told you check. No. Yeah. But now things are so much more acceptable and you know, kids are expressing them ways, themselves a lot different ways. And so I did, I let her get her nose pierced and she's got, she has 12 cursings in total. So she loves, she loves piercings and she doesn't care what anybody thinks. But I did explain, you know, to all of my kids that when you get in the real world and you start working and stuff, yes. You're not supposed to care what people think, but there's also this thing of first impressions, you know what I mean? So I told her, I said, yes, now on your high school, you can have the nose piercing. But when you go to get a real job, you may not be able to have that because not everybody needs it the same way it might limit your options. Yes, exactly, exactly. But that's how she likes expressing herself is the crazy hair dyes. She's got her hair bright red and on the top and the black on the bottom right now. I love it. So I mean, she definitely expresses herself to the fullest.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Yeah. And you know, there's certain things that they, they say pick your battles. Right? So as parents, there are certain things
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Because they're like, there's so many battles I can pick, which one did I want to pick? I love it. And so I wanted to ask about life balance. So you've, you're a, full-time, you know, employee you're providing for your family. You've got four wonderful children and I'm sure you have a private life and some time for just Phyllis, I would hope. Right. I know you're laughing. She's like, what's that? But I was just wondering, could you share, what are some of your own modalities or ways that you find peace and restorative energy inside of yourself? You know, in this day and time,
Phyllis Pena:
You know I love doing things with the kids and that it's weird, but that's what gives me so much happiness. Like that's what, you know, some people's peace they find by going to get a massage or whatever it might be. You know, they find that as a peaceful point. But with me, I just love doing stuff with the kids, you know? And the time that I've, which my friends are all, think I'm crazy with this, but I love cleaning and I love doing yard work. So that's when I kind of like, you know, just, wow, that's my, my time. So I'll, I'll go disappear like yesterday. I was weeding and I just disappear in my own little world. And you know, I find my peace there, nature. Yes. raising kids is very, very difficult, but it's very rewarding. It's extremely rewarding to see their smiles and their happiness and, you know find an even balance where you don't forget about yourself. If you yourself, isn't good, then you can't provide for your kids. Right. I mean, you have to be not just physically, but mentally healthy, you know, and that's, that's been a big struggle of mine is making sure I stay, you know, mentally healthy to where I can provide for my kids.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Wonderful. Thank you for taking care of yourself in that way and having that awareness because sometimes I can see parents taking on the, the, the, the pressures of life and then they lash out and it's not who we are at our core. It's just how we're ending up, you know, dealing with things and coping. And then we regret later in regrets. So painful inside of our soul is really it. What other advice would you give to parents? You know, there's parents out there being new parents, or even parents with
Phyllis Pena:
Some, a baby on the way, you know,
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Like your son or parents that are saying, you know, like this world, maybe they hear themselves saying this world is tough or this world is harsh or this world is it's, it's hard for our kids growing up. What would you tell them? So to give them some, some perspective and hope,
Phyllis Pena:
Well, I know that it's always said that, you know, you're not supposed to be your kid's friend. You're just supposed to be their parent. But I think as a parent, we had to find that even balance because the only way that your kids are going to make it, and it's sad to say, but the only way your kids are gonna make it through this day and age safe in one piece is by them trusting you, you know, them trusting you to be able to come to you to talk to you about what's going on. And that way, you know, you can say, as a parent, I know what's going on in my kid's life. You know, I know what, what they got going on that way. They feel comfortable to come talk to you instead of them trying to lean on a friend to get advice, or, you know, cause that's when a lot of times bad things happen is because they, they don't know who to turn to.
Phyllis Pena:
So they turn to their 13 year old friend. That's given them advice that also don't know what they're talking about. Right. But just, you know, remembering that none of us know what we're doing. I mean, let's just be honest as parents, none of us know what we're doing. You can read every book. That's out there to try to convince yourself that you know what you're doing. You know, you're going to make mistakes. Things are not going to be perfect. There's going to be times where you question, if you're even doing it. Right. You know, like I've done many times,
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
A lot of times we question if we're doing it right.
Phyllis Pena:
Yeah, exactly. Definitely lean on your friends, your good friends to help you through it. Because something that you're experiencing, they may have already gone through and can give you some helpful tips, you know, and don't beat yourself up when something goes wrong. I've gotten plenty of calls from the school, from the principal, for my kids. I mean, it happens. It doesn't matter how well you teach them, they're going to do things that are going to frustrate you. And I'm part of the blueprint. I'm like, there's times I've gone up to school and my kids have done something. And I'm just like, why? Like, what were you even thinking? Where are you even thinking? Like, where are you even thinking when you did that? Or what was going through your head, but no, just love your kids. Give them time. I mean, they need time and attention for sure. They thrive off of that time and attention.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
And the time flies by so fast,
Phyllis Pena:
We're not ready to be a grandma. I'm like, when did this happen? Like, we're going
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
To love it a whole lot more. I tell ya.
Phyllis Pena:
But I still feel like I had them the other day. I don't even feel like it's possible. You could be giving. You'll be that you'll be that sexy grandma. And that'll be cool. Awesome. Well, thank you.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Thank you for being you. Thank you for being a strong woman with courage and doing what's right for your children and keeping that in focus. And you know what I'm taking away from our talk today and our connection is that I love it. That you say that we don't all get it right. There is no right. You're doing the best you can with what you've got as you go and to instill those core values. And it feels like, you know, having some talks with our children really meeting them eye to eye, heart, to heart and opening up so that they trust us. And they know that they can have a safe place to land because the world is difficult. It is challenging. And there is no rule book. And even if there were people aren't following those roles.
Phyllis Pena:
So
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Reading that family unit that your, your children can come back to and feel safe.
Phyllis Pena:
Yeah. It's the most important for sure, because there are some very mean people out there in, unfortunately you're going to cross some paths one day in your life and you just have to be prepared and know how to handle the situation and the people it's crazy out there. It really is.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
Thank you for being you. Phyllis has been such a joy having you today on light your life. Your is inspirational. And I know that your video is going to continue to go
Phyllis Pena:
Viral. So you guys,
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
If you haven't yet seen it just simply Google mom tackles, peeping, Tom.
Phyllis Pena:
She is that mom. So thank you.
Tina Marie St.Cyr:
You are an inspiration to so many and give you my hugs to all your kiddos. I'm a mom, I'm a grandma too. And I wish them well on their journeys and for them to never lose sight of their dreams, their hopes, their vision, and believe in themselves a hundred percent cause the world will have you not believe in yourself, but that's not who you truly are inside.
Phyllis Pena:
That is so true right there. You couldn't have said that any better. Have you question everything in your life. Totally well don't listen to me. Thank you. Ma'am yes, ma'am. Thank you so much. Thank you. Bye-Bye.