#28: How to Grow Your Email List Through Stories With Daniela Nica
Description:
Tina Marie talks to Romanian business pioneer Daniela Nica on how to grow your email lists through stories. We learn about things from Daniela’s childhood growing up in communist Romania all the way to the importance of knowing how to grow your lists.
Bio:
Daniela Nica has two big passions: psychology and online business building. She is one of Europe’s top inspirational speakers and has built a tribe of over 100,000 people across her native Romania, Italy, and the United States.
Before running her successful business, traveling worldwide, speaking on stage in 4 different languages across countries, working with thousands of clients in over 20 countries, and dozens of different mindset and business programs, she failed multiple times.
The way Daniela achieved the “impossible” was always by taking the next possible step. With persistence, she started a Successful MLM to become a John Maxwell Team Faculty Mentor and Then Starting Empowered Living Romania as its President.
Links:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniela.nica.emp/?hl=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DanielaNicaOfficial/
Transcript:
Hello and welcome to lights your life. I'm your host, Marie. And as we do each time on the podcast, we said to the him people that have created rated remarkable results in their lives, you can ask the questions and learn from them to do the same in our own lives. Thank you for lending your time, your attention and your passion of having an a made here today. I'm so glad to be with you. Let me introduce our topic today and our guest today. We're going to dive into how to grow email lists through stories. I know listening to this and taking notes and you will be to Ella. Nica is our guest and she has two big passions, psychology and online business building.
Daniela Nica (01:26):
I know there are two. I can't wait. I need digesting this Daniella. Thank you. Daniella is one of Europe's top inspirational speakers and has built a tribe of over 100,000 people across native Romania, Italy, and the United States. That is not a small feat. That's why we want to impact, how did she do this before running her successful is traveling worldwide and speaking on stage in four different languages. She is very smart working with thousands of clients over 20 countries and dozens of different mindset and business programs. She failed multiple times six on an overnight trip. So we're also asking them about the failures too. What Daniella achieved is what most people will say is impossible, but the truth is she's going to give you the steps today on how she did it. So thank you Daniella for being our guest today on light your life.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (02:17):
Oh, I got, thank you so much for having me. This is exciting.
Daniela Nica (02:23):
So where do you begin? Because it's not an overnight success of having a list of a hundred thousand being able to share tops, you know, help stages with the world's influencers and becoming one yourself. So where did Daniella start this wonderful journey to lead to where you are now? Okay. How much time do you have?
Tina Marie St.Cyr (02:53):
Cause you know, I have, I have a short version, the long version and the Meagan, every medium version you know, my story, but I have to say in order for me to come to, you know, to tell my business story, I think it's very relevant for, for me to share my life story a little bit. Yes please. Because I was born in the United States. I'm kidding. I was
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Born,
Tina Marie St.Cyr (03:29):
I was born in communist Romania actually. And that, that probably says a lot already because you know, I, I used to say we were poor when I was a child, but actually this is not unique because everybody was poor in communist Romania. So it, it was really bad. And so I grew up with a scarcity mindset and with a lot of you know hungry, feeding, hungry, hungry yeah,
Daniela Nica (04:13):
There, because, you know, in make them strange that we're living in a world that many people do not really understand what it means to live in a communist country. And you know, at least here in the United States with the you know, anyone who's from 30 younger, that's armed that I think we are familiar with yet. We don't know the depths of that. So what's it like for a young child growing up in a communist country? I mean, we live so just as a comparison here in the United States, we have freedoms. I think we take those for granted every single day. What's it mean to grow up in a country where those freedoms aren't inherited?
Tina Marie St.Cyr (04:53):
Yes. So picture this, I was born on this street because my mother, my mother was in the car, but it was too late because we didn't have a car. And there was only like one car in our village. Somebody who has been the very important person had a car, but he was late to the party. So I wasn't, my, my mother just had to, you know, give birth to this child in the middle of the street. Wow. Yeah. So I was, I was raised by my grandchildren because my parents had five children. And that was because in communist, Romania, communist, Romania, you couldn't plan for how many children you get to have. And so we are very poor that I will just add another thing stores were empty. Literally. I remember walking in the stores and just watching empty shelves. And I remember my parents wake up usually typically they had to wake up on, I think on Tuesdays at 3:00 AM to be able to get in the line for the ratio for food. Okay. So I remember this things like a piece of bread for each individual had to, you know, we, we had to make it work for us for our breakfast, lunch and dinner for about three or four days. Something like that. I remember bread.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (07:04):
I remember bad animals in the bread, in the bread. Like, I'm sorry, maybe you will edit this, but
Daniela Nica (07:14):
No, I want people to understand what it means because you know, honestly Daniella, so I understand you're you were raised by your grandparents more because you had a family and everybody had to pitch together to raise. And we say here that there's a term, it takes a village to raise a child. It's not unheard of in a communist countries that everybody needs a bond or to create life and to sustain each other. And there was, we live in a, in a world and I was lucky
Tina Marie St.Cyr (07:47):
Because now I am studying psychology. And one of the biggest, the studies that they did on on children, in American researchers and you know, English researchers went to Romania in the nineties and they studied children in orphanages. There are, it was a phenomenon. There was, there were 144,000 children in, I cannot describe the conditions. I just cannot, but the most famous study that they did on children, on how you know the lack of affection actually affected children was that in Romania. And because so many children were born and parents couldn't just, they couldn't raise them. So, and they abandoned them. So I was lucky actually, because my parents abandon me and actually they, they did everything they could to raise me well and to give me an education and, you know, they did basic, they, they did everything they could.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (09:08):
But that was the reality of my country when I was born. And so I grew up for, and I studied a lot. That was my salvation in my mind. I thought if I would study a lot and I would become a lady in the, in a CD, I could, you know, live a happy life. So I literally buried myself in books and I studied a lot and I went to college. I did political science in French language in Bucharest. And then I just couldn't find a job that no, it's not true. I could have found a job, but I didn't. I let my, I lacked confidence to, to look for it. So I just didn't believe in myself. And so I decided after college to go to Italy many young people are 22 years ago were taking this road of you know, immigration.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (10:20):
And so I went to West Europe Italy, and I worked hard. I cleaned toilets better than it was. I was a waitress and I learned to make pizza. So, and I spent five years there. It was another, like another college for me. It was really good education in personal development and leadership and persistence and the resilience and whatever you want to call it. But yes, and I learned a new language, which for me now is a big advantage because I have a business in Italian language right now. So that's my story. And then, you know I always wanted to, to, you know, to have success, to be fulfilled, to grow somehow, I didn't know about personal development and you know, books and seminars. And I found out about them only 15 years ago, 14 years ago, but I always had this drive and insight for me to, you know, to overcome challenges and to become this lady that never lost.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (11:46):
And so almost 15 years ago, I went back to my country, started a new business, and I met the personal development field area. Let's say I was inspired by speakers on stages and they wanted to become like them. So I started a new stage in my, in my life and my business because you know, basically I continued to study a lot, which is my big passion study. I would, I couldn't study all my life, but this time. Yeah. But this time I was, I knew what I was doing. I knew it was with the purpose of discovering my potential, what I could do. And I said, this time I was applying, I was building a business. I was becoming this person able to have this results. And so I, I D I built this network marketing business for about seven years. And in all this time, I knew there was more for me. I knew that it was something as, and so, and it was, and so eight years ago I started a new business in the personal development in the speaking field, in the, so I became a speaker coach trainer, and this is what I do for eight years now. So this is the
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Story. That's awesome.
Daniela Nica (13:27):
Thank you for pursuing your passion and thank you for listening to it inside of you. That's always saying grow. There's more, as I think in our human experience, sometimes we're conditioned with the program that we're supposed to get to a certain level and be happy. And don't give that we don't give credence to that part of us that still wants to grow past are conditioned to mindset. We there's so much more that we can always become no matter how old we are and you send to that part of you. So, congratulations.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (13:59):
Thank you. That's awesome.
Daniela Nica (14:01):
So let's talk about email list building.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So it's email list building
Daniela Nica (14:07):
Is necessary. Whenever you have a business, I don't care if it's a brick or mortar business, or it's an online business or any type of influence that you want to have in the world, the way that we reach people. It sounds as though there's social media and then there's email. So why let's just start at the beginning. What is it about your email grown? What are those strategies that you've worked for Daniella?
Tina Marie St.Cyr (14:33):
So your question is what is wrong about email lists or because I am not, no,
Daniela Nica (14:38):
What's the strategy. What's the strategies that you've used to build your email list.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (14:43):
Okay. First of all, when I started, I didn't know anything about online marketing webinars list building and all this good stuff. So I, I always I was only trading hours for dollars. And I, I, you know, I created some degree of success in my coaching business in the first two years, but, but then I, I just couldn't grow anymore because at the end of the day, there are only three ways to grow a business, right? Raise your prices with my market increase the number of products. And if you don't have time, you're, you're already work a lot. You cannot do it. There is no scalability in, in this, there's not a potential to, to grow with, with no limits. And so, and, and the other one is to increase the number of clients. So again, that is hard to do because I was trading hours for dollars.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (15:45):
And so until I found another way, which is list-building through webinars in my case eight, seven years ago, six years ago. Yeah. I started six years ago with webinars, but because the first two years I didn't do anything online. And then another secret for me was story telling. So let's say the tactic is through webinars. And the story telling would be the strategy. I really believe that is a business before sharing your story and not their business after sharing your story. And I have doubled my business each year in the last five years, so, wow. Yeah. So yeah, I've built a multi six figure business in Romania, which is huge for my market again. And then I started the business in Italy and then now in, in English for less than a year, I think I've started my business here in your, in your space. And I've built a six figure business in less than six months because I knew how to build a list. So yeah, so I would share a little bit of the methodology or the, let's say the psychology behind a lease building, and then some little tactics and strategies, if you
Daniela Nica (17:15):
Allow me to we're listening. So I want to share
Tina Marie St.Cyr (17:19):
A five piece formula, you know, in this business, there are a lot of peace right in this business. So I have my five PS, four, five feet problem pain, personal story, and process. And then I will add three more periods, but, but the first is the most important people, you know, experts talk about niches, avatar, stuff like that. I put it, there is another way of doing it. And this is through you know, psychologically define your people. So for many years in the human development and the marketing area experts have preached about the before and after pathway that before and after story that us as coaches, we need to guide our people through this journey. This is where they are and it's bad, and this is where they want to go. And it's great. So there is a crappy before and the shiny after, after, and only by following me, right, can you get that bright future? Here is how I have done it, blah, blah, blah. And now I get to enjoy the life laptop lifestyle. And so on first, and they say everything was word or wrong in my business. Everything was wrong in my life. And now everything is great. And this is just not credible because not true. It is not complete. Is it, is it feels fake because it is fake actually
Daniela Nica (19:22):
And manipulated and feels manipulate. Yes.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (19:25):
So when it comes to really understand your people and talk their language, I teach a diagram with four quadrants. And so on one side of the quadrant, you'll have the present situation in the presence of patient. They have negatives, but they also have positives. They are not only struggling, waiting for the guru to save them. They have issues, they have challenges. They need help, but they also have positives in their lives. As we have positives and negatives as influencers and our past as well, we had some negatives, but we also had some positives, positive things, right? So sometimes yeah, sometimes the positives keep us and keep them from moving forward towards that bright future. It's not the negative, it's the positive sometimes. And so you want to them exactly the comfort zone. If you really want to help them, you must to connect on both angles of the present of the Cod current life.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (20:42):
And we also have the future side of the quadrant with both positive and negative aspects in the future. So I have four angles. Let me give you an example. Let's say I teach this building for coaches and speakers because I do. And so my ideal client, my ideal client is a coach or an aspiring coach. So if I go with only the before and after method, you know, I know their problems and I, now, they don't know how to start. They don't know. They don't understand technology. They struggle with their mindset. They feel they are not ready. They have the imposter syndrome, their family and their friends don't support them. So what kind of stories can I tell to help them on this level? I'll tell stories about how I started, how they told me that I couldn't do it, that I am a woman in Romania and Romanian people don't like intervene in market until remain in market.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (21:49):
They told me only American speakers accepted and that I wouldn't be able to do it. And so on. I would tell them how I didn't have a clue about technology and marketing. How, I didn't know, I didn't know how to do anything, or I will tell, I will tell them about my Italian story. I have a story where, you know, I only had three years to buy ice cream and I dropped it on the ground. I was with my sister and we started to cry over the, the ice cream in the middle of the street. So I tell this, this kind of stories in order to attract and connect with my people on this negative side of the present. And it's fine, but there is a present that there is, there is the present, the positives in the present. I'm sorry. My, yeah, good.
Daniela Nica (22:50):
You're doing great with your English. I'm really crap with my Romanian. So
Tina Marie St.Cyr (22:55):
Yeah. So we have to understand that they have skills in their present, our potential clients they have, in my case, they are, they are great coaches. They have certifications, they have content. Many of them already have a career. They have a conference on it. Exactly. They have hot. And so sometimes they keep procrastinating that next step because they have their needs met. And so if I keep telling them about only my crappy or my, you know, my negative stories, they will go, I'm sorry for you. I'm fine. Right. So yeah. So
Daniela Nica (23:45):
There's no root connection. Yes.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (23:48):
So we need to tap into their desire and dreams and not only into their pains and struggles through my psychologist. That is, I learned a lot of about the positive psychology field Martin selling man. He is the father of the positive psychology. And he talks about an acronym called PERMA P from positive emotions E from engagement are from relationships, M F R am, I think from a mission and a, from a achievement. So people in order to be happy, they need all this. They don't only need to solve their pains. They need to feel happy. So they need positive emotional. They need to find the joy in their lives. They need to feel in the flow. So find that those that they love, they're passionate about. They need to, to have great relationships find their mission.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (24:59):
Not only that people don't, don't only do things in order to be rewarded or punished, they need to, to find their mission and to achieve things. So when you build your list with content, when you try to connect with your people, these are all important, psychological things that you need to know and build your content with stories around all these points. So when I go with the positive, I will tell a story about my thriving network marketing business. I was one of the top network marketing business women here in my country, but, and I was making good money and I was comfortable, but I, but I wanted more, even if I was doing well. So now I'm connecting with somebody who has a great career and they have achievements and they have money, but they want more. Right. And on the other side, we have, as I said, the future with positive and shiny you know, bright how can I say it?
Tina Marie St.Cyr (26:23):
Laptop on the beach lifestyle. But we also have negatives in our future. So if we don't address these negatives in our message to our people, if we only painted that image in their mind where they will go with us and we will guide them and their life will be amazing. You know what happens? We don't enter the conversation they already have in their mind, because while you do this, they say, yeah, maybe this worked out for you, but you don't know my situation. What if this happens? What if that happens? And, and so, and they tap into their fears and anxieties, and they created this scenarios in their mind about what can happen when they take the journey with you and how you don't understand it, because you, you only talk about positive in their future. And even if you say everything is going to be fine, they feel like they are different. Their situation is different. What if I do that? You, you, you're telling me to do a Facebook live in order to build my list. What if I do it? And I fail, what if I start emailing my people and they hate me. So I have to address that embarrassment. Yeah. And yeah.
Daniela Nica (27:49):
And I've had that, like, we, we do have clients that come to us and they say, I do want these changes. However, and I love that you're facing that inside voice. That's doubting their ability to come by themselves or that the future isn't as rosy as their mind would paint. It's, it's also, you know, possible risk in that future. I had a client yesterday saying, you know, cause he would love to live in a certain city, which is away from his family. There's just something inside of it. And he says, I can't explain it, but I think I'm supposed to be in this other city. And whenever I talk to my family about it, they're like, well, why would you leave here? And so even though he has this dream and this vision inside of his life, and he's even his beloved, his future beloved is in this new city, which I have to believe in energetically.
Daniela Nica (28:35):
It's true. Why would he not? You know, why would he have the seed inside of him if that's not somewhere in the, in the future real right. And yet that fear was like, if I do this, my family will abandon me. If I do this, I'll miss out on the connection with my family. And so it's like, you're saying, it's that one fear of one leg over here. And the current president it's comfortable. I know what, it's not that bad, but the future is over here, this longing, this discontent, this, this dream that I'd love to have, but I don't have that faith in that confidence. I'll if I love that you tell the both sides of that coin. It's beautiful.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (29:10):
Yeah. And do we need to tell stories about all this? Right. So tell them how you have struggled in have been struggling in this process. I tell them how I sucked at Facebook lives and then I did it again and how I built my skills and, you know, I, I failed a lot of times and very important about how I keep failing sometimes in my business right now in my business, in my growth process, because it is more credible than honors. And we will all struggle in our lives that, I mean, I do love my life. It's better than being poor. Okay. My, my problems now are way better than my problems 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago, but I still have some issues and I still have some, some stuff. So by being vulnerable by sharing, you know, you have to be intentional.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (30:09):
You have to be strategic. You have to put together content that people will love and that will help them. It is always about them, but it is your story. And through your story, you help them. And it's not only about, you know, the no like trust factor. It is about that, for sure. But I believe in this world we living there is so much competition and if you only provide resources that help people, well, those are commodities and they will take yours and they will go to the next one in the next one. And the next one. And it's not, if you don't create that bond, that personal bond, if people have to feel almost like in love with you and I have Emily. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have, when I talk about the welcome email, the email, the onboarding email sequence, the welcome email sequence, I call it the fall in love with me email sequence, because you know, we either fall in love with each other or we, you know, we, you will leave.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (31:38):
I will, you know, there is no reason for us to waste time. If we, we cannot create that connection, that bond, and this is what you create through stories. This is like the only, the only way we can do it. So just, just to close the loop here. So I talked about positives with present with positives and negatives, future with positive, with negatives and positives. Of course, we talk about what happens positively in, in our lives. I just bought a condo in Orlando. I have a beautiful life. Okay. And so these are the four anchors we have in mind. We have to have in mind when we create content, but this is only the first B people, right? Yeah. So, and, and it is most important one though, when you have clarity on all these aspects of the four quadrants, it is easy to identify their problems, their problems.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (32:50):
And this is the second P and then there are pain points. There are different problems and pain points are different. And then add your personal stories that are relevant to this problems and pain points and help them create a mental map of how you will guide them through your process. So people, problem, pain point personal stories and process and remembered. So, so in terms of how you apply all this to build your list, we have a S six P and it it's pieces of content. You build, you create pieces of content with all this. It's actually sharing your stories and teaching around problems and pain points of your people on a platform that's me, the sample fee. So FICO platform and start sharing, of course, you need to create a lead magnet or a 10 lead magnets, probably. And I'm not only talking about PDFs, PDFs, still work, depending on how good they are, but all this process that I shared will help you to create amazing content that you can use on your webinar, on your you know, micro content on your mini course that you can offer your list.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (34:41):
Yeah, for sure. Social media and all kinds of you can go, you can put together a speech and go on podcasts, so you can build your list, right? You can go on summit. I do a lot of summits to build my list. So these are some tactics that work right now in, in, in the world where we live right now, virtual stages is a great way to build a list organically and you know, with relevant potential clients. And everybody teach teaches that, but you need to have the first the, the, the strategy part, you need to have the psychology of your client part really, really well, well done. Yeah.
Daniela Nica (35:37):
Honed in on that. And so, of course, thank you for sharing. This is, this is remarkable. I love the stories and they all definitely build a con each other strategically. And it's, it's very easy to see how that flows. So, you know, on a logistical side, how often do we touch our people? And is it, you know, sending out an email a day, is it an email a week? I know that there's different formulas for that. What do you do Daniella to keep that list relevant and to stay in their mind and be someone who's giving them, you know, in in their life, even through content, even if they didn't engage.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (36:18):
So for me, the first five emails are very, very, very important. The onboarding email sequence, they all come fall in love with me. [inaudible] I do five. Sometimes I do seven. Actually I have tested different types of different strategies. Some people say three are enough. Other people will say five, other even seven. I have tested everything. But five is a good number and you can do it in a week. I think you need to do it in a week. You can do day one day, two day three, and then pause. And then they five and another pause. And then they, they seven and you're done. This is very important because this is where you create that bond. I was talking about. This is where you share your story. This is where you you are the leader because you share the vision, you share the direction you want them to take with you.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (37:30):
What you are, you all about, your share, your values. You share about you know, some expectations that they can have with you. You invite them to your community. If you have a Facebook group or whatever platform you, you have for your community and basically you lead them to an, you, you welcome them in a way that they understand it's exciting. And they have a leader that knows what, what, what they do, right? He or she does, and the journey and the journey. And they can decide if it's for you or not, if it's for them or not. So they probably joined your list because you shared a PDF, a lead magnet, or a webinar, or, you know, a masterclass, a mini course, you, you spoke at the summit, they have, they don't trust you. They only wanted that material for now.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (38:37):
And they liked you enough to join your list, but it's that, that's it. So you have work to do, to, to make them trust you like that. Like, you feel that bond and bond and feel they want your next step. It's not about selling right away. It's about making sure you are a good fit for each other. This is the email, the welcome email. It's like, it's exactly like dating, dating. I'm better at email marketing than they did, but that's okay. So that's the Mo the most important, because the OPA rate is somewhere between a 50 and 80%, you will never get that Oprah open rate again, never. Wow. Only for, you know, the first the first type and then a good, a good rule would be at least once a week, email them, at least once I liked twice. I like twice, if you set the right expectations from the beginning, that's fine. I like twice, I don't like daily. But again, if you set that expectation and they said, yes, they stayed in your list that can work as well. And they like sharing a lot of value. I also sell a lot I'm, you know, I don't hide it. And I tell them in my email sequence, in my welcome email sequence, that they will have opportunities to, to buy from me. And that's natural, that's normal, and we don't hide it. We don't play right.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
We're strategist.
Daniela Nica (40:45):
They're, they're connected to you because they want that value and those additional benefits in the personal development. So you're seeding it at the very beginning. This is what you can expect, and this is how we can, right. Yeah.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (40:57):
Yes. And then, so, and then we have the launches. When you, you, when you launch UML them more often, for sure. I mean, it's obvious. Yeah.
Daniela Nica (41:09):
Launching a program, launching a product launching. Yeah. Like an entire series. Yeah. Awesome. This is so good. Congratulations. You've done a great job. I've taken tons of notes and I've even thought about my own way of being with my current list and how it could be even more effective helping them. Cause this is what it comes down to. As they say, when people get what want, they'll help you get what you want, because it's a law of circulation. Right. And so how do our listeners, how do the light, your life podcast listeners find you? And then I know that, you know, you're going to give them tons of value. How can they sign up on your list?
Tina Marie St.Cyr (41:49):
Yeah. So my website is Daniella nica.com. It's exactly my name that come at in English. And they have, I have an amazing free gift for your audience. It's on seven strategists to building your list. It's a 50 pages. I like to go to set the expectations because I don't want to overwhelm people, but guys, it's 50 pages because it's well designed. So you will find a lot of, you know, images, a big font. It's actually a good, solid piece of content. It's all, all almost like a mini course, but it's not like a 50 pages really, really desert. Yeah.
Daniela Nica (42:42):
It's not a, it's not a big work project.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yes.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (42:47):
So, yeah.
Daniela Nica (42:49):
Where is that? Ebook. How can they get to that? That's on your website@danielleandnika.com.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (42:56):
They will find it right away on the page. They will cause it's easy to, I want to build my list. So there you
Daniela Nica (43:06):
Go. It's awesome. You're, you're showing us how to do it by doing it.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (43:11):
Exactly. When you get to my website, you won't see a lot. You will see a button to download my free gift.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
So simple call to action. Simple. And
Daniela Nica (43:24):
You're also an Instagram. So you could follow Daniella, Daniella dot, Nika dot E M P. Yes. And then you have a Facebook group, which is Danielle and Nika official so far I'm to spell Danielle and deacon for you.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (43:38):
That's my business page. And I have, I do have a Facebook group actually. It's called speakers and coaches who want to build a multi six figure business online. It's not a sexy, that's a long name, obvious title.
Daniela Nica (43:56):
Okay. Say that name again of the group. This is a great name. Everybody
Tina Marie St.Cyr (44:00):
Because it's coaches who want to build a multi six figure business online.
Daniela Nica (44:07):
No, I didn't even know. Facebook groups could have that long name. Yes.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (44:11):
And actually that's a good strategy as well. So don't go with Facey. Titles go was obvious. Dido's how would people search if they want, if they wanted to build their business, they would have keywords like speakers and coaches, business building multi-six figure. These are all benefits promises, right? So yes, it doesn't coaches who want to build a multi six figure business online.
Daniela Nica (44:46):
I love that. This is so good. Danielle, I love hanging out with you. You've got so much great content and it's evident that you come from your heart and your soul and you want to help those that are here to help others. So thank you for dedicating your life to this and leaking away. You know, we're only two to three set of those perfect people that we can most, and you're leading the way as a shining star and being on the light, your life podcasts, such a joy to, to be with you and for you to lend your energy and your wisdom on how we can build our emails.
Tina Marie St.Cyr (45:23):
Thank you very much for having me. And let me just say this. I'm at a new starting point in my business and the English space. So you actually are helping me a lot by inviting me. Yes. Yes. It's a new business for me. So thank you very,
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Very much.
Daniela Nica (45:46):
And with that, we want to let everyone listening, know that we're always learning and there's relaxation there that we don't need to get it right. We don't need to be perfect at things. This is an evolution and Daniella is showing us that we can always be doing in beginning. And that often publicity is electric. So thank you so much. And that's what light your life is all about, right? Yeah. Everybody go to Daniella, ni.com find her free 50 page, very well put together ebook for you. That's going to guide you in building your list. And if you're a coach want to be a coach, if you're those influencers in our world that are helping people that are all looking for solutions, you want to follow Daniel and Nika and, and take her wisdom and put it into your life. Also watch her way of being she's guiding you because you're going to be in the process that she teaches and follow Daniella. She's a beautiful soul and a friend. Thank you again for being on light your life until next time everyone share this podcast with others, because that's how we vibrate our influence into the world. We love you.